{"id":2621,"date":"2020-09-10T21:56:07","date_gmt":"2020-09-11T05:56:07","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/antoine.wojdyla.fr\/blog\/?p=2621"},"modified":"2020-10-06T12:54:32","modified_gmt":"2020-10-06T20:54:32","slug":"some-thoughts-about-gender-gaps-in-stem","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/antoine.wojdyla.fr\/blog\/2020\/09\/10\/some-thoughts-about-gender-gaps-in-stem\/","title":{"rendered":"Some thoughts about gender gaps in STEM"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em><strong>Liminary note:<\/strong> I am not a social scientist, but I try to educate myself about some issues facing academia, and this is the result of my inquiries. If you think some elements are incorrect or if you have good resources to share, please let me know!<\/em><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_2625\" style=\"width: 510px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/antoine.wojdyla.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/short-life.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2625\" class=\"size-full wp-image-2625\" src=\"http:\/\/antoine.wojdyla.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/short-life.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"298\" srcset=\"http:\/\/antoine.wojdyla.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/short-life.jpg 500w, http:\/\/antoine.wojdyla.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/short-life-300x179.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p id=\"caption-attachment-2625\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">In this short Life<br \/>that only merely lasts an hour<br \/>How much \u2013 how<br \/>little \u2013 is<br \/>within our<br \/>power <br \/>\u2013<br \/>Emily Dickinson<\/p>\n<\/div><p>Gender gaps in academia are pretty dire, and while it seems to get acknowledged and addressed, it&#8217;s not clear whether the root causes \u2013 especially social norms \u2013 are fully understood and can be solved. The paper <a href=\"http:\/\/doi.org\/10.1126\/science.aba7377\" onclick=\"_gaq.push(['_trackEvent', 'outbound-article', 'http:\/\/doi.org\/10.1126\/science.aba7377', 'Understanding persistent gender gaps in STEM']);\" >Understanding persistent gender gaps in STEM<\/a> (Science 368, 6497; June 2020, <a href=\"https:\/\/science.sciencemag.org\/content\/sci\/368\/6497\/1317.full.pdf?casa_token=8ALHgkTocxYAAAAA:8NkE_n7z9O7o-Er6Au5Xbghiz7GqNc_kCa0uWTapasbcus5NlHb1PJacFl60HGPLQQFrtQSvwIjZgrDk\" onclick=\"_gaq.push(['_trackEvent', 'outbound-article', 'https:\/\/science.sciencemag.org\/content\/sci\/368\/6497\/1317.full.pdf?casa_token=8ALHgkTocxYAAAAA:8NkE_n7z9O7o-Er6Au5Xbghiz7GqNc_kCa0uWTapasbcus5NlHb1PJacFl60HGPLQQFrtQSvwIjZgrDk', 'pdf']);\" >pdf<\/a>) offers interesting statistics and insights.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_2623\" style=\"width: 308px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/antoine.wojdyla.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/gender_gap_stem_top.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2623\" class=\" wp-image-2623\" src=\"http:\/\/antoine.wojdyla.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/gender_gap_stem_top.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"298\" height=\"319\" srcset=\"http:\/\/antoine.wojdyla.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/gender_gap_stem_top.png 800w, http:\/\/antoine.wojdyla.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/gender_gap_stem_top-280x300.png 280w, http:\/\/antoine.wojdyla.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/gender_gap_stem_top-768x824.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 298px) 100vw, 298px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p id=\"caption-attachment-2623\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Gender gap in physical science majors<\/p>\n<\/div><p>The problem does not seem to be a difference in achievement, but social factors rather.<\/p><!--more--><\/p>I found this part a bit distressing<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>For high-achieving students, our analyses suggest that efforts to boost women\u2019s PECS aspirations and intentions (i.e., the strongest set of predictors)\u2014such as role-model interventions and Girls Who Code \u2014may work well to eliminate the gender gap in pursuing PECS at the top of the distribution. [&#8230;] This clearly implies that to close the PECS-pursuit gender gap among the top achievers, the critical piece is in converting all other STEM-positive factors (e.g., confidence and interest) into actual aspirations and intentions. <strong>Unfortunately, for average- and low-achieving students, our analyses also revealed that the field\u2019s understanding of how to get average- and low-achieving girls into the field is more limited.<\/strong> The same factors that explained the PECS gender gap at the top of the distribution collectively explained less and less of the gap further down the distribution. Thus, the interventions that may work for high-achieving girls are unlikely to work for lower-achieving ones. Moreover, focusing efforts on attracting high-achieving women to PECS may back-fire: Whereas men have male peers to serve as role models throughout the achievement distribution, having only high-achieving role models for women may send signals to average- and low-achieving women that they do not have the necessary STEM skills to succeed (<a href=\"https:\/\/science.sciencemag.org\/content\/sci\/suppl\/2020\/06\/17\/368.6497.1317.DC1\/aba7377_Cimpian_SM.pdf\" onclick=\"_gaq.push(['_trackEvent','download','https:\/\/science.sciencemag.org\/content\/sci\/suppl\/2020\/06\/17\/368.6497.1317.DC1\/aba7377_Cimpian_SM.pdf']);\" >see SM, section 4<\/a>).<\/p><\/blockquote><p>I admire the effort of many to improve representation on wikipedia matters a lot, for it helps already successful women scientists regain the place they deserve, but we must make sure not to see. The same things go for &#8220;women panels&#8221;, where the you-can-have-it-all stance may send the wrong signal (in addition to other issues such related the academic Bechdel test.) From P\u00e9rola Milman&#8217;s &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.trounoir.org\/?Ceci-n-est-pas-une-femme-La-Jeune-fille-le-Trou-noir-et-la-Mort\" onclick=\"_gaq.push(['_trackEvent', 'outbound-article', 'http:\/\/www.trounoir.org\/?Ceci-n-est-pas-une-femme-La-Jeune-fille-le-Trou-noir-et-la-Mort', 'Ceci n\u2019est pas une femme : La Jeune fille, le Trou noir et la Mort']);\" >Ceci n\u2019est pas une femme : La Jeune fille, le Trou noir et la Mort<\/a>&#8221; (translation coming soon):<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>One thing leading to another, telling us about our respective frustrations and small rewards in each of the activities mentioned and in so many others, we end up asking ourselves &#8211; me to her, her to me &#8211; almost in unison: \u201cbut have you seen the last CNRS newspaper? \u201d. And we burst out laughing, together! Yes, we both saw it. And that\u2019s why we particularly felt particularly like shit that day. The last issue of the newspaper gave us a portrait. A portrait of a woman. Of a woman who really exists. A woman called &#8220;the boss&#8221; in the newspaper. A woman covered in prizes, almost a professional musician, mother of six, slim, smiling, and who said &#8220;that her status as a woman has never been a handicap&#8221; and &#8220;doing research is not easier for boys than for girls \u201d. A remarkable person, without a shadow of a doubt. And seeing this fabulous, brilliant person, my friend and I, we immediately saw each other shine, too. <strong>But what shone, what stood out, were our disabilities<\/strong>. The holes in us. Our holes, although black, shone brightly. Indeed, this portrait confirmed that our feeling of spending a lifetime rowing &#8211; and worse: rowing without direction &#8211; may not have just been an impression.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<div id=\"attachment_2624\" style=\"width: 510px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/antoine.wojdyla.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/boxedin.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2624\" class=\"wp-image-2624 size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/antoine.wojdyla.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/boxedin.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"333\" srcset=\"http:\/\/antoine.wojdyla.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/boxedin.jpg 500w, http:\/\/antoine.wojdyla.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/boxedin-300x200.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p id=\"caption-attachment-2624\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">trying hard to fit in that box<\/p>\n<\/div><p>What happens in Scandinavian countries is interesting:<\/p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.bbc.com\/worklife\/article\/20190831-the-paradox-of-working-in-the-worlds-most-equal-countries\" onclick=\"_gaq.push(['_trackEvent', 'outbound-article', 'https:\/\/www.bbc.com\/worklife\/article\/20190831-the-paradox-of-working-in-the-worlds-most-equal-countries', ' The &#8216;paradox&#8217; of working in the world&#8217;s most equal countries']);\" > The &#8216;paradox&#8217; of working in the world&#8217;s most equal countries<\/a> (BBC)<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>In politics, 46% of Swedish members of parliament are women, while the proportion in other Nordic countries is around 40%.<\/p>However, there are still surprisingly few women in senior private sector roles. Just\u00a0 28% of managers in Denmark are female, rising to 32% in Finland and Norway, and 36% in Sweden, according to a report by independent think tank <a href=\"https:\/\/object.cato.org\/sites\/cato.org\/files\/pubs\/pdf\/pa-835.pdf\" onclick=\"_gaq.push(['_trackEvent','download','https:\/\/object.cato.org\/sites\/cato.org\/files\/pubs\/pdf\/pa-835.pdf']);\" >The Cato Institute<\/a> in 2018.<\/p><\/blockquote><p>and later trying to find an explanation:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Last year, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sciencedaily.com\/releases\/2018\/02\/180214150132.htm\" onclick=\"_gaq.push(['_trackEvent', 'outbound-article', 'https:\/\/www.sciencedaily.com\/releases\/2018\/02\/180214150132.htm', 'researchers in the US and UK']);\" >researchers in the US and UK<\/a> found that countries with an existing culture of gender equality have an even smaller proportion of women taking degrees in science, technology and mathematics (STEM).<\/p>\u201cIt is a paradox \u2026 nobody would have expected this to be the reality of our time,\u201d says Professor Gijsbert Stoet, one of the report\u2019s authors.<\/p>He argues that since Nordic countries have a generally high standard of living and strong welfare states, young women are free to pick careers based on their own interests, which he says are often more likely to include working in care-giving roles or with languages. [&#8230;]<\/p>\u201cGirls and boys are different, and have different preferences on the whole,\u201d <strong>he<\/strong> argues. He believes too much media focus is placed on the lack of women in CEO positions, since these account for such a small proportion of jobs overall, and suggests that more men fill these roles since \u201cthe personality traits and ambition to be important and famous is higher in men than women\u201d.<\/p>But others strongly believe that <strong>social conditioning is the major driver<\/strong> when it comes to women\u2019s career choices and promotion opportunities, and stress that gender stereotypes persist.<\/p>\u201cI don\u2019t think it\u2019s about choice, it\u2019s about structures \u2026 to say it\u2019s about choice is to \u2018blame the victim\u2019,\u201d says Anneli H\u00e4yren at the Centre for Gender Research at Uppsala University.<\/p><\/blockquote><p>It seems the issue will not vanish through some flavor of affirmative action (even if useful), but by questioning society as a whole and rewriting some of its rules \u2013 though the best approach is not clear.<\/p>\n<h3>Social construct<\/h3><p>An friend of mine, who immigrated from Iran many years go was telling me how women in Iran, despite an oppressive regime, manage to outperform men in STEM fields, perhaps because the highest positions in politics are barred from them, and that science, being somewhat objective, allows them to avoid some of the traps put in front of them.<\/p>The most striking example of this is <strong>Maryam Mirzakhani<\/strong>, the only women to be awarded a Fields medal and whose life is depicted in the excellent <a href=\"https:\/\/vimeo.com\/ondemand\/secretsmathfilm\" onclick=\"_gaq.push(['_trackEvent', 'outbound-article', 'https:\/\/vimeo.com\/ondemand\/secretsmathfilm', 'Secret of the Surface']);\" >Secret of the Surface<\/a>. When she died of cancer at age 40 a few years ago, <strong>she became the first women appearing on the front page of Iranian newspaper <em>without a veil<\/em><\/strong>.<\/p>Another anecdotal evidence is the apparent increase of interest for science in all-girls school, especially in the British islands, where competition between boys and girls is nonexistent, the social factors therefore obeying to different rules.<\/p>But it&#8217;s clear that going to these extremes to close the gap is not an option (and a particularly bad idea.)<\/p>\n<h3>Branches of the same tree<\/h3><p>Since there is somehow parity at the top but not in the bulk of students, it might be worth consider other avenues to attract women to science. An interesting option to consider is to blend science and arts, with the hope of breaking the walls. The report of the National Academy of Science &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.nap.edu\/catalog\/24988\/the-integration-of-the-humanities-and-arts-with-sciences-engineering-and-medicine-in-higher-education\" onclick=\"_gaq.push(['_trackEvent', 'outbound-article', 'https:\/\/www.nap.edu\/catalog\/24988\/the-integration-of-the-humanities-and-arts-with-sciences-engineering-and-medicine-in-higher-education', 'The Integration of the Humanities and Arts with Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine in Higher Education']);\" >The Integration of the Humanities and Arts with Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine in Higher Education<\/a>&#8221; (free to download after registration) offers some insights. Here are my reading notes:<\/p>&nbsp;<\/p><a href=\"http:\/\/antoine.wojdyla.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/steam.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-2672 size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/antoine.wojdyla.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/steam.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1080\" srcset=\"http:\/\/antoine.wojdyla.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/steam.jpg 1920w, http:\/\/antoine.wojdyla.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/steam-300x169.jpg 300w, http:\/\/antoine.wojdyla.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/steam-768x432.jpg 768w, http:\/\/antoine.wojdyla.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/steam-1024x576.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\" \/><\/a><\/p><em>Previous articles on the topic of gender in academia<\/em><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/antoine.wojdyla.fr\/blog\/2019\/05\/08\/how-to-promote-diversity-among-scientists\/\"> How to promote diversity among scientists<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/antoine.wojdyla.fr\/blog\/2017\/10\/20\/sexism-in-academia\/\">sexism in academia<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul><p><em>edit October 6, 2020: I&#8217;m extremely glad <strong>Andreas Ghez<\/strong> got awarded the Nobel prize for her work. Incidentally, I&#8217;ve learned about the <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Finkbeiner_test\" onclick=\"_gaq.push(['_trackEvent', 'outbound-article', 'https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Finkbeiner_test', 'Finkbeiner Test']);\" >Finkbeiner Test<\/a>, the equivalent of the <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Bechdel_test\" onclick=\"_gaq.push(['_trackEvent', 'outbound-article', 'https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Bechdel_test', 'Bechdel Test']);\" >Bechdel Test<\/a> in academia. Fasten your seat belts, you will hear many violations in the next few weeks&#8230;<\/em><\/p>https:\/\/twitter.com\/nell_sci_NPR\/status\/1313483132574801920<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Liminary note: I am not a social scientist, but I try to educate myself about some issues facing academia, and this is the result of my inquiries. If you think some elements are incorrect or if you have good resources to share, please let me know!Gender gaps in academia are pretty dire, and while it [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[11,13,14,16,9,5,10],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2621","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-english","category-epistemology","category-projects","category-resources","category-science","category-science-life","category-skepticality"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/antoine.wojdyla.fr\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2621","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/antoine.wojdyla.fr\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/antoine.wojdyla.fr\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/antoine.wojdyla.fr\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/antoine.wojdyla.fr\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2621"}],"version-history":[{"count":14,"href":"http:\/\/antoine.wojdyla.fr\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2621\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2728,"href":"http:\/\/antoine.wojdyla.fr\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2621\/revisions\/2728"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/antoine.wojdyla.fr\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2621"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/antoine.wojdyla.fr\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2621"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/antoine.wojdyla.fr\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2621"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}